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  • Alerg
    Level 2

    hello
    I am playing this server from some time and i must say that admins are very good at keeping it clean from cheaters and making the server a nice place... but i also see that there is a little count of skilled players as i remember from older times on thatIts damn shame cuz server is great atm from all available. I hope in future some skillers will be back in here smile cheers Szuya
  • Warning!Mika
    Admin

    Hi
    The number of skilled players playing here is pretty the same, most (skilled)regulars are playing under different names.
    Also dont forget its summertime and many players enjoy the sun xD
    wait for the winter xD
  • Alerg
    Level 2

    well the real med+/- players on the server u can count on 1 hand:D what i meant was that the real skilled players wont play cuz of kick/spamm for bots=/ its not rly hard to see whos cheating after 5 years of playing, and by this i mean i saw few good players got kicked just by some guy saying "he cheats !!!" thats the sad part of this server :<
  • Thu Aug 13 2009, 06:29pm
      
    Gotenks
    Level 9

    you will hardly ever see that here... kicks are based on admin decision (unless ofcourse it's a kick vote, which is one of the reasons I disabled it originally, mindless zombies pressing f1). Our refs don't take it where we automatically assume your cheating because someone says so, we spec for a while and see what it looks like.
  • Alerg
    Level 2

    well admins do a good job as i said but they arent all the time there would u agree and kick votes are enabled so the :mindless zmobie (XD): still deicide while refs are away...I dont blame anyone its just frustrating.
  • Fri Aug 14 2009, 10:47am
    Fri Aug 14 2009, 11:01am  
    Warning!Mika
    Admin


    well the real med+/- players on the server u can count on 1 hand:D what i meant was that the real skilled players wont play cuz of kick/spamm for bots=/ its not rly hard to see whos cheating after 5 years of playing, and by this i mean i saw few good players got kicked just by some guy saying "he cheats !!!" thats the sad part of this server :<

    Alerg

    Hi

    Ultra, 1337 skilled players wont play here , depends on what u define as med or high skill, its subjective point of view, i call it "clan-like atmosphere".

    They are playing on servers with clanbase configs and not in a server with a campaign rotation and public configs (there are some exceptions wink ) and if they play in a public server like our server they are playing there to relax, they are playing just to make many frags, because in a match with med-high-skilled players frags "doesnt count" the only point is the objective "stopwatch-spirit".

    Our server is open for all players, for the one day newbie-player till the med-high skilled player, so everyone is welcome to play here. Its normal that u cant see ultrahigh or many high or even med skilled players in a public server with campaigns + Heavy weapons + public config + no stopwatch-mod.

    Especially when the server is moderated from refs and admins to ensure Teambalance and Fairplay, example: after shuffle med+/- Player cant play with his clanmate in the same team. Some of those players are using spawntimers and are "specialists" in airstrike spawnkilling , something that gets u kicked from our server wink (i am talking from experience in our server)

    If u check other popular public etpro servers you will find the same situation. A public campaign server with rules that protect noskilled or newbie players is a "public server".

    There are public servers for med-high-skilled players : e.g. Cybergames, clanbase config + NO rules (exception cheating isnt allowed xD )+ No enforced Balanced Teams.

    About Kick-vote , Bot-spamming:

    I ve been in the server with my official nickname but i ve been there with different names "undercover" for different reasons etc. (One of those reasons is that players who really cheat know the names of the referees and admins on server.)

    I saw players using the kick-vote to remove a 999 player or to remove an inactive player (afk) from their team (something frustrating for me when i am trying to put them in spectators xD) , but in 1 of 10 cases i saw someone using kick-vote to kick a player X because he just thought he is cheating (almost the vote didnt pass ) .

    I saw players who are screaming player "X" is cheating etc and they called a kick vote but the vote didnt pass , but i also saw 2 or 3 players specing someone and inform me he is cheating and they were right and i also saw ppl kicking via vote a cheater on server wink (and i also saw cheaters calling random kick votes to disorient the players)

    The Kick-vote option is very useful for the players when a referee isnt present on the server : e.g. the guy who were kicked via kick-vote for inactivity, next time when he is afk he will go to spectators and the players feel safer with this option against cheaters.

    What is better: a server without kickvote + Cheaters + No Refs or a server with Kick-Vote + Cheaters + no Refs.

    So we enabled the kickvote on the server for the case that the referees arent present on the server wink

    This is a job for the admins , referees on the server.When someone calls an another guy "Cheater" we the moderators of the server have to check the "accusation" and if the player X doesnt cheat we have to stop the pointless accusations.


    (unless ofcourse it's a kick vote, which is one of the reasons I disabled it originally, mindless zombies pressing f1).

    Gotenks

    This is a good argument against the kick-vote-option, but i think summarily the kick-vote-option offers more "good" than "bad"

    Excuse my poor english smile
  • Fri Aug 14 2009, 12:15pm
    Fri Aug 14 2009, 12:20pm  
    Alerg
    Level 2

    well i dont mind kick vote its just frustrating sometimes as i said. Its normal that leet playors wont play here cuz of public config and maps but still ive played many times with my friends (med+)on publics and noone care that server is low(when the server was cheater free it was nice)..what i meant was that many low skilled players on the server are behaving sometimes rly brainless:P i was myself admin on a known polish server neostrada.pl and situation was pretty same when i changed maps and scirpts for more likely cb, server was an empty place for like month:/ most players on the server doesnt know what cb is, and when smbd good joins its almost 100% that in 5 min someone will call the name 'cheat' or just start whining...well as well as most playors i dont care about it.

    And about servers with cb config on i dont personally like em cuz everyone there is playing for themselves.Ofc the skillz there are matching my requirements but if i want to play on cb server i go #6on6.et tongue

    Well i must say that talked to many players on this server and i got asked many times "how u can aim so well"or some shit...this is the second problem if someone doesnt handle the smg/rifle its instant panzer/mortar.HOW THE FUCK U WANNA LEARN HOW TO PLAY WITH SUCH ATTITUDE! its taking my fun of playing and i think more ppl would agree...

    btw as a suggestion u could add a script on battery for cp spawn(allied) so the map would be more playable for allies team:)
  • Fri Aug 14 2009, 01:24pm
      
    Gotenks
    Level 9

    that's why we have panzer limits and riflegranoob limits. Everyonce in a while I pick up an smg and hear ding ding ding, but generally I like playing with rifle. same thing probably for people with panzer, some people just like playing with it, it is a pub so some people are not worried about getting better. I've been playing since it was beta release (on a 667celery at the time, so it was crappy) I'm not worried anymore about improving
  • Warning!Mika
    Admin


    what i meant was that many low skilled players on the server are behaving sometimes rly brainless:P....... most players on the server doesnt know what cb is, and when smbd good joins its almost 100% that in 5 min someone will call the name 'cheat' or just start whining....

    Alerg

    I wouldnt say brainless although stupidity is a feature of the human nature. I think they are not experienced players who cant believe there are players who can aim and act better in game. This is normal, even in "pro-servers" you can face this situation.



    Well i must say that talked to many players on this server and i got asked many times "how u can aim so well"or some shit...this is the second problem if someone doesnt handle the smg/rifle its instant panzer/mortar.HOW THE FUCK U WANNA LEARN HOW TO PLAY WITH SUCH ATTITUDE! its taking my fun of playing and i think more ppl would agree...

    Alerg

    Learn? most players won't learn anything they are just playing for fun (in public servers like ours). The players who are asking themself "why i cant aim so well or what are the weak points of Szuya when i am facing him/her xD " are relatively little/few wink and not everybody has the talent to become a skilled player.

    Panzer/mortar are also weapons on server with their functions and features. Players can handle them good or bad, there is also a skill-requirement in order to make some kills and help your team.

    Mortar and Panzer arent the fun-brake, the fun-brake-factor are the uneven Teams. Skilled Players who just want to frag are always joining the axis team and the rest is trying his luck on the allies.

    A funny example is: there are times on server when u press TAB to see the teams u see on the Axis-Team all players have colourcodes in their names and in the Allies-team they dont have any colourcodes so they have white-Names xD

    Sometimes Panzer/Mortar, Heavy Arty can be really a fun-brake-factor even with balanced and even Teams, not because they are heavy weapons but because they arent enough limited. Sometimes you cant walk from point A to point B without to get hit over and over . (I think this is your point here)


    btw as a suggestion u could add a script on battery for cp spawn(allied) so the map would be more playable for allies team:)

    Alerg

    The only mapscript i know where the allies can spawn at CP is the default one from ETPro, but the backdoor isnt dynamitable anymore.

    You mean this one? (personally i like it)

    http://forum.splatterladder.com/index.php?showtopic=6662

    * After Allies have built the Beach Assault Ramp for the 5th time it can only be destroyed by dynamite.
    * Bunker Assault Ramp near the North-West MG Nest available (see the command map for location). Allies can build the Bunker Assault Ramp by using the materials inside the bunker.
    * Axis can rebuild the Backdoor. Allies need dynamite to destroy the Backdoor for the first time. For all subsequent attacks also satchels can be used to destroy it.
    * Axis can spawn near the backdoor as long as the Axis command post is up and running (this is different from the ETPro map script where Axis spawn at the command post).
    * The command post and Axis MG nests are already built on map start.
    * The Generator and the Backdoor are decoupled, so the Generator does not open or close the Backdoor - it does only operate the doors near the Gun resp. the door at the bunker front.
    * The MG42 nests in the East Bunker (near the Command Post) are removed.
    * Frontline mod (see below for description).
    * The script includes all ETPro map script fixes.
    * The script includes mortis' script fixes for Battery.

    To make such changes i have to discuss it at first with Gotenks. Gotenks is the Headadmin and major changes are going through him smile .
  • Fri Aug 14 2009, 08:29pm
      
    Gotenks
    Level 9

    major changes go through nail and me XD I like that, especially the ramp, when it's 2v2, it's frustraiting when you take that time to build the ramp only to have it blown up again in 2 sec
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